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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
@01:22yeahh !!
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
@00:35

Thanks burningvegeta

You will , it's easy, just work a lotand that's it

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I was finally paid , after like years of waiting and negociations
Ok well , thanks for the support and the comments ,even with that , i'll be carefull next time , very careful, always ask for upfront money !

Better version here
vimeo.com/71968448

I did this for some rapper ? but never got paid for this (as usual)
Also the payment was very very very low (so it's nota loss)
For more than 6 months of hard work and more than 5000 drawings

All that for nothing
Well it's not like i got any faith in them but now i wonder HOW and mostly WHY

Never trust anyone (at least i didnt delivered them the product)
Always have the product secure !

There is no song of course ,just the animation
i'll use this in my new demoreel 2013 and probably upload better quality soon
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ofneondreams Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
This was amazing! I love the line work, colour palette and fluidity in the animation. I especially like the silhouette scene with the breeze, very nice. They're loss to be honest, missing out on a great talent but frankly they didn't deserve it if they weren't willing to even pay appropriately for your time and work.
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015  Professional Filmographer
Thanks man , love this kind of message
They eventually paid in the end but yeah it was a crazy mess
I still dont get the point of being like this
Novody wins by acting dumb like that , nobody
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ofneondreams Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
No problem and I totally agree.
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V0LT1C Featured By Owner May 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This was beautiful
Awesome job :)
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K-hermann Featured By Owner May 26, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Hey !
thanks to you
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V0LT1C Featured By Owner May 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
np :)
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Tattorack Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Holy son of a................
And I thought your first animation was epic! This is... this is....
Why aren't somewhere in the main animation business!?!!
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Thanks !
Nope i never saw an animated studios of my life (meaning i never officially worked as an animator somewhere)

Why ? not me to ask this question , go to the studios and ask them , i'm sure they have all sort of (funny) answers to that.
In any case , look at my work and look at what they produce too...
... 
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Tattorack Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, no. Most cartoons aren't this quality of animation (they're based on a lot of still images that aren't moving at all cleverly placed together).
This type of animation I've only seen in (usually) older animation movies! Ok, its not the best animation I've seen, but it comes pretty close! And I'm thinking of how good you'll be 10 years from now... or even 5!
Of course, it would be so much better if you'd get your own studio somehow, but considering hiw difficultthat is... ^^;
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Well thanks a lot dude , very cool from you
If i dont have enough skill to earn my life with animation then so be it , the future will tell us if those people were right or wrong

For creating animation studio ,yeah but for the moment i prefere work as an independant contractor.
If i got a lot of work and praise i'll create it and it will be more economic viable
if you create a studio just by hasard and chance , it could work but there is greater chance of failing and having problems.
This media is very competitive and some people will do anything prevent a new challenger fairly coming in .
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Tattorack Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You're welcome!

I didn't mean make one this isntant! :XD:
Its obviously more logical to make a buildup of somekind and get known before starting something like that.
And yeah... its kinda saddening, medai isn't based on art quality but how well you can hustle the economics  :saddummy:
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ElDiabolito Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Professional Filmographer
this is all some really nice work.  it is unfortunate that you weren't well compensated for all your hard work.  it is something i believe we as artists learn much too late - the value of our time and our skill.  often we are told we should just be happy that we get to work, but the truth is that we're the only ones who can do what we do (why else would they be asking us to do it?)  you learn quickly that spit and a handshake, or a favor for a friend are empty and meaningless to a binding contract written on paper and signed by all parties.  you also learn that your value is not to be understated nor misused.  you also learn that you are ultimately a business, you provide services to those who need it for a competitive price.  all that said, i can't stress to you the importance of a contract.  something that binds both you and your client into a legal agreement outlining pay, time, scope of work, what happens when the work expands, and what happens when you don't deliver or the client refuses or dodges pay.  a contract can save your business and protect your value and it gives you a legal recourse when the client tries to screw you out of money and hard work.  they came to you because they can't do it themselves.  your price can be modest, fair, competitive; but it shouldn't ever put you at risk of being upside-down on production (in that it cost YOU more to do the work than the work actually paid back).
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Well thanks
I was finally paid off , but not much it should be
ANyway yeah ,next time i'll be more harsh with contract stuff and make sure they paid if they try to do some shitty thing to me.

thanks for the help.(and yeah the contract thing , we dont learn at all in fact , some are totally clueless of how it works but heh people will said that's our own fault...)
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ElDiabolito Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Professional Filmographer
believe me, it took many hard lessons for me to wise up.  even now, i still get clients who try to wiggle as much for as little as they possibly can.  part of the business i suppose; but better i'm protected, than merely at their whim.  it's good you finally got compensated.  i had a client once who took 90 days to pay me for a paltry 5 days of work.  it can be quite frustrating for sure.
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Yeah i think there will be always some dirty clients around
I dont get why they take too much time to pay , but want the good in times .
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Tuskat Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Vraiment bien fait, j'aime beaucoup :nod:
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Merci Tuskat !
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Tuskat Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
pas de quoi :dummy:
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Christopher-Buchanan Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Excellent job, I really like the style of the animation and think this should be suggested for a DD.

Keep up the awesome work! I wish they hadn't tried to cheat you I would loved to have seen this with a soundtrack of some type.
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Professional Filmographer

thanks very much!!

its really encouraging!

I wish too but people are so dumb sometimes

i don't get it

what's the point.

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Sora-World Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
ouah je n'ai pas de mots pour décrire à quel point c'est bien animer ! En plus c'est une histoire très émouvante, bravo ! j'aimerais tellement être capable de faire ça ^^ c'est un autre level pour moi :D
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer

Ouaisp

Ben les gens sont très tres cons.

Faut faire gaffe a tout le monde.

Y a des années j'aurai pas pu le faire,tout dépend de ta motivation.

Tout est possible.

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Sora-World Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
c'est vrai je sais qu'il n'y a pas de secret :) le travail travail travail. En tout cas j'aime beaucoup ce que tu fais, bonne chance pour la suite :D
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Merci !!!
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JR-T Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Professional General Artist
superbe, sublime, ta meilleure prod à mon goût. Tes environnements sont juste à tomber par terre :worships:

Tu devrais ajouter une musique qui correspond au clip par dessus, un groupe qui te plait ou plus ou moins connue et en faire une sorte de fan vidéo, et hop youtube. Cela pourrait t'apporter la visibilité que tu mérites ;)
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer

hahah merci.

Chais pas si je vais le mettre sur youtube

Les gens peuvent downloader les videos et tout

je vais reflechir a un moyen.


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Liketheisland Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Professional Filmographer
What the fuck. That's a HUGE dick move. If I were in your position I would have the client pay in installments after each step of animation is finished. A certain amount after the animatic, a certain amount after the roughs, and so on. That way it'll be harder for them to screw you over. You'll also want to estimate how many hours it takes you to finish one of the animation steps and charge based on that, because I'm sure whatever you asked for wasn't enough for work of this quality. Don't sell yourself short. seriously, that's ridiculous. I just... fuckin' RAGE

I honestly didn't care for the leg and lip movements here (they looked kind of puppet-like), but the character designs, backgrounds, colors, lighting, and timings were all flawless. I'm glad you didn't let them have this, because frankly, they don't deserve it. 
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer

Yeah you are right

That won't happen again

First time are useful for that

It have his flaws , i have to work on them yeah.


thanks for the support ,very grateful

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ZeBracArdeaTH Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
anyine suggest this as a DD?
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer

hahaha

that would be sweet revenge

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XT1 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
@01:22Wish it had some sounds
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
@01:22yeahh !!
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PhookaBoo Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Student Filmographer
wow I'm so sorry you didn't get paid when this is so complex and neat!

Really fabulous animation! I couldn't take my eyes off it :iconrlyplz:
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Thankies !
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Gearpunk Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Shame, this is so awesome! They're missing out!!
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
yeah, those idiots could have it also for a very low price (less than 1000 bucks -_-)
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DORMWORLD Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
excellent job ! shame on them, their loss!
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Thanks Dormworld !
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burningvegeta Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Student Filmographer
@00:35This is seriously some impressive animation, well done. I wish I had your skills.
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
@00:35

Thanks burningvegeta

You will , it's easy, just work a lotand that's it

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pommegenozide Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Nice work! I love your camera works there :thumbsup:
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
thanks a lot !
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JazylH Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Gotta hate when that happens... But seriously stunning work Herman.
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer

Thanks jayzil!

Hope you fine 

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JazylH Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I'm great buddy.
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Professional Filmographer
cool !
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Kyttee Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Aww it seemed like a sweet story! I'm sorry to hear you didn't get paid :( I guess the best thing when confronting a "potential runaway client" (as I like to call them) is to ask for a certain deposit prior to the work.

The animation itself is really well done! Love, love, love! :D
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K-hermann Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer

Yeah

I did wrong by not asking them

Glad you loved the whole work.

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the-lazy-artisan Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
Awesome animation, it really sucks about the client though :/
Always make people pay in advance and sign a contract. At the time it seems like you don't want to be pushy or get on their nerves about stuff like that, but it really pays off in the long run and makes you seem more professional.

Hang in there and keep doing awesome stuff like this!
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